Consultation paper

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2 Responses to “Consultation paper”

  1. Annette Lawson, Chair, NAWO Says:

    I am afraid the formatting of this paper got lost in translation. We answered in blue but copying it into this means it has also lost any colour. I hope it is not too hard to print and decipher.

    NAWO
    the National Alliance of Women’s Associations’ response to:

    Consultation
    paper
    Women’s
    working
    group

    December
    2008

    Summary

    There has
    been
    a
    revolution
    in
    some aspects
    of
    women’s
    lives
    over
    the past
    30
    years,
    however
    the
    reality
    is
    that
    there are still
    many
    issues
    whose impact
    on
    women’s
    lives
    is
    vastly
    disproportionate to
    those of
    men.

    This
    document
    and
    the questions
    below
    explore the issues
    which
    hold
    women
    back in
    their
    everyday
    lives
    and
    which
    create
    barriers
    to
    every
    person
    in
    the
    UK
    living
    their
    life to
    the full
    extent
    of
    its
    possibilities.

    In
    responding,
    please do
    not
    feel
    that
    you
    need
    to
    answer
    all
    the
    questions

    just
    pick out
    the sections
    or
    individual
    points
    which
    interest
    you,
    or
    tell
    us
    which
    issues
    you
    think
    we’ve missed
    out!

    “I
    can
    have
    it
    all”

    1.
    Where
    does
    gender
    stereotyping
    come
    from
    and
    what
    is
    gender
    about?
    We understand gender as describing roles formulated and subject to change within societies and sex as the biological differences between women and men but neither category is straightforward. The problem is inequality – that which allocates to men power over women.
    Stereotypes are located in history where men’s power was little limited and they are deeply rooted, supported by tradition and culture and also by religion and hence very difficult to change. They work to keep ‘woman in her place’ at home and not in decision-making or in public life.
    2.
    Can
    government
    encourage
    changes
    to
    how
    we
    think
    about
    gender
    inside
    and
    outside
    the
    home? Yes. Just passing legislation already sends messages to the public about what is acceptable and what not. On its own it is not enough and the media is one vital source of impression-building towards (or against) cultural change. Changes such as the Gender Duty, properly interpreted also impact locally on everyone’s life.
    3.
    Can
    women
    really
    ‘have
    it
    all’?
    Can
    men?
    What
    is
    ‘it’
    anyway
    and
    is
    it
    worth
    the
    effort? It is not possible to ‘have it all’ but ‘it’ where time, money and other resources are meant could certainly be better shared.

    4.
    How
    can/should
    the
    government
    act
    to
    tackle
    a)
    the
    gender
    pay
    gap, This is a priority for the present government and the steps they are taking in practical ways as well as the new Equality Bill should be helpful. As long as women’s work is still expected to include the lion’s share of caring roles, though, her time is limited for paid work. Caring work itself needs to be more highly valued and paid. Steps such as the accounting for caring work in the national GDP would help.
    b)
    the
    pensions
    gap, serious problem and one of the strongest arguments for gender budgeting
    c)
    the
    inequalities
    caused
    by
    part-time
    working? See above
    5.
    What
    advice
    should
    be
    made
    available
    publicly
    (e.g.
    through
    schools,
    FE/HE
    institutions,
    the
    Citizens’
    Advice
    Bureau)
    to
    assist
    individuals
    in
    managing
    their
    finances
    and
    understanding
    the
    support
    systems
    available? As much as possible
    6.
    How
    can
    we
    make
    sure
    that
    women
    are
    better
    informed
    about
    their
    rights
    and
    legal
    position
    in
    a
    relationship? Some of our members favour pre nuptial contracts and certainly women and men need to be very well informed about the financial implications of various forms of relationships and what follows separation and/or divorce.
    Are
    there
    any
    legislative
    changes
    you
    would
    make
    to
    clarify
    the
    position
    between
    unmarried
    co-habitants?
    For
    those
    who
    don’t
    feel
    comfortable
    with
    marriage,
    should
    the
    option
    of
    civil
    partnerships
    be
    extended
    to
    mixed-sex
    couples? Yes, we think mixed sex couples should be able to have the same financial security as same sex couples
    Sex

    7.
    How
    does
    the
    increasing
    sexualisation
    of
    mainstream
    culture
    affect
    our
    lives
    and
    freedoms?
    From far too young, it makes the girl child imagine herself in very adult ways and seems to require her to be a particular shape and to look a particular way which is likely to be unattainable and certainly not sustainable thus also undermining the role of older women. In addition, women who are disabled are disadvantaged seriously by such stereotyping and sexualisation.
    How
    might
    we
    mitigate
    any
    negative
    affects
    of
    this? The broadsheets, Radio 4, some TV (soaps included) do now show women in many different (other than sex) roles. But we need women in real life top positions much more frequently. The appalling line up of finance ministers for the G20 with just two women can be read as indicating the lack of seriousness of women – very damaging
    8.
    How
    can
    we
    ensure
    that
    children
    and
    young
    people
    grow
    up
    with
    strong,
    confident
    and
    successful
    female
    role
    models? If there were the role models up there, this question would not be needed. We need quotas and dramatic steps to be taken by organisations such as political parties to make the changes that put the models in place.
    Is
    there
    anything
    that
    can
    be
    done
    to
    make
    the
    impact
    of
    the
    media
    and
    advertising
    industries
    more
    positive? Writers and producers have a good deal of power but the need for viewing figures and the need to raise revenue through advertising dominate.
    9.
    How
    can
    we
    better
    protect
    all
    members
    of
    our
    society
    from
    sexual
    abuse,
    both
    within
    their
    domestic
    environment
    and
    in
    their
    community? The present changed training of police has made a big difference. Children in school need to understand and be taught from the very youngest up that hitting and hurting are simply not tolerated and that little boys may not under any circumstances hurt little girls. But as they grow the problem needs to be discussed, plays put on that enable children to work out what they may have witnessed and what they may think are tolerable solutions to problems in safe settings. The law and action on it is vital. Men’s organisations such as Respect are also contributing importantly to stopping VAW as is the White Ribbon Campaign. Damage is done by famous figures who ‘forgive’ violence and go on to even marry the perpetrator. But it is helpful when famous figures leave such relationships and talk about it. Support is essential for women’s refuges and for women’s organisations working to combat VAW.
    10.
    What
    can
    be
    done
    to
    decrease
    the
    prevalence
    of
    sexual
    attacks
    and
    improve
    conviction
    rates
    for
    those
    guilty
    of
    rape?
    The CPS has an excellent Gender equality plan produced under the legislation on the gender duty. It is actions such as this that will change the rates of reporting, conviction etc and send the right messages. Men’s violence must not be lauded as heroic.

    11.
    How
    can
    we
    change
    attitudes
    to
    sex
    so
    that
    rape
    and
    sexual
    assault

    under
    any
    circumstances

    is
    not
    tolerated
    by
    society
    at
    large? Somehow, using some of the ideas and practices already mentioned, the attitude needs to be developed that sex is only part of a relationship and not all of it. ‘Both more important and less prominent than it would seem in the present culture’ (from a member). Better sex education and more of it (as above and there is excellent practice, for example in Northern Ireland on this) is essential. But so is the alleviation of poverty, good opportunities for varied education and sports and community work (see also Q 16).
    How
    could
    this
    affect
    sex
    education
    amongst
    children
    and
    young
    people? See above
    12.
    How
    can
    we
    best
    support
    individuals
    to
    express
    their
    sexuality
    freely;
    eliminating
    oppression,
    fear
    of
    oppression
    and
    social
    stigma?
    13.
    Should
    a
    women’s
    paper
    be
    tackling
    the
    issue
    of
    prostitution
    and
    how
    might
    it
    approach
    the
    issues? NAWO is strongly committees to the same view as the European Women’s Lobby: prostitution is part of violence against women. No-one should be permitted to buy sex – i.e, to buy a part of a woman’s body (or a man’s). It can be likened to slavery and should not be tolerated in a civilised society. We believe the Swedish model which decriminalises women selling sex and focuses on the demand side, now being taken up in other countries, should be pursued in this country but whole-heartedly and that means considerable resources to enable women to leave prostitution and earn money in other ways and men to change their views of what women are for. We appreciate that the English Collective of Prostitutes considers women choose freely and that it is work like any other (sex work) but this ignores or denies the fact most prostitutes have abuse, poverty and drug use in their backgrounds. Prostitution enhances the idea of women as sex objects and makes it ever more difficult to gain equality. So yes, the topic should form part of this paper. Please see publications available at EWL’s web site: http://www.womenlobby.org.
    Relationships/Love

    14.
    Can
    the
    government
    better
    support
    and
    assist
    non-traditional
    forms
    of
    relationships?
    15.
    Should
    there
    be
    any
    taxation
    or
    legal
    provisions
    for
    individuals
    such
    as
    partners,
    siblings,
    or
    parents
    and
    children
    who
    co-habit
    for
    long
    periods
    of
    time
    but
    are
    not
    legally
    married
    or
    in
    a
    civil
    relationship? ‘The government has no role in taxing people according to life style but every role in supporting children and good parenting’. It should evaluate taxes by requiring gender budgeting in all policies and to assess the impact of gender on every policy and benefit. It should also NOT penalise same-sex or cohabiting couples – what is available for the married couple rearing children should be equally available to all couples rearing children while single mothers (and fathers) need special support.
    16.
    How
    should
    young
    people
    be
    educated
    about
    relationships,
    sex,
    STIs,
    and
    growing
    up?
    What
    role
    might
    schools
    and
    parents
    have
    in
    this? Parents, alas, will not necessarily play an adequate role in this. Sex education is really deeply necessary – there are many imaginative ways of doing it too.
    17.
    How
    can
    social
    links
    be
    re-kindled
    in
    our
    society?
    Does
    the
    government
    have
    any
    role
    to
    play
    in
    this
    or
    does
    it
    fall
    to
    voluntary
    organisations? The government can support initiatives and provide resources. Women are the major builders and supporters of communities but they and their leadership is too often ignored by those with resources – especially government but also church and other community leaders. The media could enable the idea that community service is desirable. ‘Get young people to see it as really cool to work in a Raleigh venture’; for VSO and so forth; and help poorer children to join in.
    18.
    How
    can
    we
    generate
    social
    networks
    for
    those
    who
    do
    not
    naturally
    have
    them? What is natural about it???
    19.
    How
    can
    we
    support
    carers
    in
    the
    valuable
    work
    that
    they
    undertake
    for
    our
    society?
    What
    actions
    could
    the
    government
    take
    to
    better
    recognise
    and
    support
    carers’
    role?
    Lot of work on this – go to the Carers’ associations
    Body
    Image/Health

    20.
    How
    can
    we
    encourage
    women
    to
    have
    a
    more
    healthy
    body
    image?
    What
    role
    could
    the
    media
    and
    advertising
    play
    in
    generating
    this
    change
    of
    attitude? Lots of images of gorgeous women athletes and famous women like Dame Kelly Holmes, doing what she IS doing – going around schools, encouraging etc. and provide the funding equally to women’s sports as to men’s. Get male sports leaders and athletes to speak out and work for women’s leadership and ability.
    21.
    How
    can
    we
    as
    society
    rebalance
    our
    ideas
    about
    female
    physical
    ‘perfection’
    and
    challenge
    current
    trends
    in
    critiquing
    the
    female
    aesthetic?
    How
    can
    we
    ensure
    that
    models
    are
    healthy
    and
    maintain
    a
    healthy
    body
    weight? See above and also get the fashion industry taking more responsible lines and engaging with young women.
    22.
    How
    can
    we
    make
    sport
    more
    attractive
    and
    appealing
    to
    women?
    How
    can
    this
    be
    achieved
    at
    school
    to
    give
    an
    early
    positive
    relationship
    with
    sport? See above
    23.
    Are
    there
    any
    incentives
    that
    could
    be
    used
    to
    encourage
    individuals
    to
    get
    healthy
    and
    active? As above. Run competitions with serious rewards.

    24.
    How
    successful
    have
    the
    government’s
    awareness
    programmes
    and
    campaigns
    on
    sexual
    health
    been?
    Are
    there
    any
    improvements
    which
    could
    be
    made
    to
    increase
    awareness?
    25.
    How
    can
    we
    get
    the
    message
    about
    STIs
    across
    to
    all
    young
    people,
    making
    the
    most
    of
    new
    technologies
    and
    innovation?
    Men

    26.
    How
    can
    we
    encourage
    men
    to
    take
    a
    greater
    role
    in
    their
    children’s
    lives?
    Continue to have men present in the delivery room and able to participate from the word, ‘go’ in their infants and children’s lives. Consider making part of parental leave available only to fathers but be aware that in several countries this has had little success mainly because of the continuing pay gap which makes it economically difficult for fathers to take on this challenge and, obviously, it also does not help women or their babes who are breast feeding. NAWO thinks also we need to be aware that calling this leave ‘parental’ also masks the fact that it is mothers who physically need time after they have given birth and babies also need time in daily contact (including skin contact) with their mothers. ‘Parental’ has the advantage that it stresses dual (at least) responsibility for the child.

    It is helpful also to push for more flexible working that will not mean just ‘part time’; that does not lose the flexible worker training and promotion prospects and is as appealing to men and to women. Highlight good practice already out there in place for example in the civil service and some private businesses.

    What
    role
    do
    educational
    establishments,
    the
    health
    service
    and
    other
    public
    organisations
    have
    to
    play
    in
    this? The gender duty requires them to think through every aspect of their working and they can be and often are leaders in good practice. Unfortunately there has been a grave misunderstanding of the meaning of the gender duty as if it meant the same programmes for men as for women must be provided, but men per se are not in need of empowerment. Dangerously, this has also meant the fact women are sometimes violent has been understood as meaning men require programmes to help them as victims. This misses the point that violence can and does sometimes occur within familial relationships but gender=based violence reflects the deep inequality between men and women (she is attacked by a man because she is female) and also makes that inequality persist.
    December
    2008

    27.
    How
    can
    we
    ensure
    that,
    after
    divorce
    or
    separation,
    fathers
    are
    encouraged
    and
    enabled
    to
    maintain
    a
    role
    in
    their
    children’s
    lives?
    If there is a history of domestic violence, the children will have seen this and the boys perhaps identified with it. If there has been sexual or physical abuse of the children, they are probably better off without their fathers. Sometimes, perhaps it is frankly better for there to be no or minimal contact but in general most fathers should be enabled to be with and see and nurture their children as well as aiding in their support and future well-being.
    Making fathers legally responsible and requiring contributions is essential but it often puts an unfair burden on the mother to recover what she is owed. ‘Good divorce’ is possible, but rare, although the mediation movement has done a lot to help.
    28.
    How
    can
    we
    remove
    traditional
    male
    values
    from
    our
    society
    so
    that
    both
    men
    and
    women
    can
    be
    truly
    equal
    in
    all
    regards?
    Values have changed and most young men seem to want to be gentle and available fathers. But many cannot afford the next step – either financially or emotionally because we have lagged behind in what counts as a ‘proper’ man. It is also not clear to women what being a ‘proper woman’ now means either. The same answers keep being repeated – role models and the structure of work needs to change. So does our reward system.
    Career

    29.
    How
    can
    we
    ensure
    that
    equality
    legislation
    does
    not
    adversely
    impact
    on
    women’s
    chances
    of
    employment
    or
    promotion?
    What
    role
    could
    shared
    parental
    leave
    play
    in
    the
    solution?
    30.
    How
    can
    we
    create
    pathways
    back
    into
    work
    after
    a
    child
    break?
    Should
    parents
    be
    ‘forced’
    back
    into
    work
    by
    the
    welfare
    system?
    It is the case that the best chance of climbing out of poverty and the best self esteem is found in mothers who work for money – i.e. are employed. This reflects on their children’s success too. But ‘forced’ is a big word. Encouraged, yes – choice needs to be there.
    31.
    How
    can
    we
    best
    enable
    mature
    women
    to
    get
    back
    into
    the
    labour
    market
    after
    a
    long
    break?
    32.
    How
    can
    we
    enable
    parents
    to
    spend
    the
    time
    they
    want
    to
    with
    their
    children?
    By changing working hours and by making it clear to an entire work force that staying late is not a good reason per se. Work should be done in working hours and you will not be penalised if your jacket is not over the back of your chair at 8am and 8pm. Give rewards for those who accomplish tasks well within work time limits.

    How
    do
    today’s
    working
    norms
    affect
    parent-child
    quality
    time?
    33.
    How
    can
    we
    encourage
    more
    women,
    particularly
    those
    from
    non-white
    backgrounds,
    to
    put
    themselves
    forwards
    for
    the
    ‘top’
    positions
    in
    our
    society

    MPs,
    senior
    barristers,
    executive
    directors
    and
    the
    top
    echelon
    of
    positions
    in
    business.
    Programmes are needed that tackle specific obstacles – lack of cash; a need for affordable and good quality childcare; lack of confidence and a culture which may be against their working, with practical advice. Also support self-help groups whose members work out for themselves what the best development programmes are for them, and help each other.
    34.
    How
    can
    we
    encourage
    more
    girls
    to
    do
    traditionally
    ‘male’
    subjects
    at
    school?
    How
    can
    we
    encourage
    boys
    to
    do
    traditionally
    ‘female’
    subjects?
    35.
    Do
    working
    class
    women
    face
    particular
    challenges
    in
    terms
    of
    achievement,
    promotion
    and
    opportunities
    available
    to
    their
    peers?
    Feeling
    Safe

    36.
    How
    can
    we
    achieve
    a
    safe
    environment
    on
    our
    streets
    and
    how
    can
    we
    enable
    individuals
    to
    feel
    safe?
    Is
    there
    anything
    particular
    which
    could
    impact
    on
    women’s
    perception
    of
    public
    safety?
    Ordinary changes like street lighting; litter clearance help. Publish widely the actual figures for crime and where it occurs – great deal of anxiety is poorly grounded in facts. Women sometimes find martial arts or similar helpful in gaining confidence. Provide women only transport - carriages on trains and underground after certain hours. Also campaigns that make it clear women are entitled to be out at night and men are not entitled to harass them. And ‘most hoodies are not dangerous – just lads practising growing up’.
    37.
    How
    should
    the
    criminal
    justice
    system
    be
    reformed
    to
    better
    address
    the
    specific
    needs
    and
    challenges
    of
    the
    female
    population
    it
    serves?
    What
    alternatives
    to
    prison
    might
    be
    appropriate
    for
    female
    offenders?
    38.
    How
    can
    we
    ensure
    that
    all
    offenders
    receive
    assistance
    with
    mental,
    emotional
    and
    drug
    problems
    which
    is
    appropriate
    to
    their
    needs?
    39.
    What
    can
    the
    government
    do
    to
    turn
    lives
    around
    in
    the
    criminal
    justice
    system,
    reducing
    re-offending
    and
    rehabilitating
    people
    back
    into
    mainstream
    society?
    Are
    there
    any
    particular
    examples
    of
    successful
    innovation
    in
    this
    area?
    40.
    How
    can
    we
    make
    the
    face
    of
    the
    criminal
    justice
    system
    more
    female,
    by
    encouraging
    more
    women
    into
    the
    police
    force
    and
    the
    top
    jobs
    within
    the
    legal
    profession?
    Do explore the Fawcett Society publications on the criminal justice system – also support the implementation of Corston.

  2. Cllr Louise Lotz Says:

    Maternity, Midwifery and Breastfeeding
    Firstly, with regard to childbirth, although we should have choices in childbirth and this is an ideal enshrined in law, in practice the option of homebirth is increasingly not available and women often give birth in warehouse-like large consultant led units in places far from their home. To counter this, there are movements to make midwife led units available in areas where there is no consultant-led unit, and to ensure that women can have access to independent midwives free of charge, in order to have a homebirth in areas where this is not supported by hospitals. We should also aim to support the status of midwives and to lower the artificially high Caesarean rates.

    With regard to breastfeeding and perinatal care, I believe we should be supporting the Innocenti Declaration and the Who Code of Marketing for Breastmilk substitutes, as well as the Baby Friendly Hospital initiative, all of which have strong international status. Women who want to Breastfeed should have access to support that makes this possible. Efforts should be amde to support the ‘lost 25 per cent’ of mothers who wanted to breastfeed but did not receive the support.

    Although Liberal Democrat policy admirably supports paternal involvement, I would like to see recognition for the additional physical and emotional demands on breastfeeding mothers, especially where a choice is made to extend breastfeeding for the two years recommended by WHO as a worldwide standard for optimal health.

    In addition, Britain has very poor breastfeeding rates, by international standards. It is clear that legislation can make a huge difference, and this has been seen in countries like Sweden and Brazil.

    Midwives should be supported and given appropriate professional recognition, status and independence.

    I want to think through some of these ideas and expand on them, but these are some initial thoughts.

    Sincerely
    Louise Lotz

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